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Posted on: July 3, 2009 6:39 pm
Score: 125
 

Manager Selected - The Greatest All Time MLB Team

Welcome back and thank you all so very much for participating and contributing to my blog.  Our endeavor of putting together the greatest all time team took months and I'm very satisfied with the success and the outcome of the blog.  Some of you have wondered out loud what I would do next, and I'm not really sure, but I have one idea.   What do you all think about the idea of me putting together a series of blogs where we compile our own list of the 102 remaining names of the players who failed the "confidential" drug test in 2003?   We can put together the list 10 names per week and our series of blogs could last about 2 1/2 months.  If anyone has an idea for me that is baseball related, I'm willing to take suggestions.   If I like my idea best, I'll run with it, but if someone has a captivating idea, I'll try to figure something out to implement it into a blog.

First off, its time to announce the manager of the Greatest Team of All Time.   As I suspected there was no runaway here and it appears that many of you used the stats I compiled to make your determination.   The winner was Joe McCarthy.   McCarthy edged out Connie Mack by two votes and Casey Stengel and John McGraw tied for third.   Personally, I like that choice, but I was surprised that the more modern day skippers such as Sparky Anderson, Tony LaRussa and Bobby Cox didn't receive a little more love.   I think the job of managing has really became a bit more challenging since the age of free agency, as a manager can't rule as much with an iron fist and has to be more of a physcologist and an ego stroker. 

For the benefit for all of you that helped put this together, here is the team that Joe McCarthy gets to manage:

C - Johnny Bench
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby
3B - George Brett
SS - Honus Wagner
LF - Ted Williams
CF - Willie Mays
RF - Hank Aaron

SP - Walter Johnson
SP - Cy Young
SP - Sandy Koufax
SP - Christy Mathewson
SP - Bob Gibson
SP - Nolan Ryan
SP - Greg Maddux
RP - Dennis Eckersley
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Trevor Hoffman

Reserves:
C - Josh Gibson
IF - Albert Pujols, Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt and Ozzie Smith
OF - Stan Musual, Ty Cobb and Hank Aaron

As to the question of who would play against our all time team?   Probably no team on this planet or solar system.  We'ld have to look for intergalactical teams to play us!   Does anyone have any friends in Japan who can put together an all-time Japanese team?  I'm sure players such as Ichiro and Sadahuro Oh could make a good cornerstone for a Japanese team.    

Okay, I'll leave you all to comment on this team or to give me your ideas as to which direction I should go with my blog.   It would also be interesting to see anyone's ideas for a line-up and pitching rotation for this team.   Once again, THANK YOU ALL!!!!  Smile 
Category: MLB

Posted on: June 23, 2009 4:57 pm
Score: 114
 

Vote for the Greatest Manager of All-Time

Welcome back everyone for the final vote for the All-Time greatest team.    We have certainly put together an awesome team and now we'll pick the best skipper for team.  

Before we get to the manager, I'll announce the players chosen as the reserve outfielders.   Hank Aaron became the first player on my team to be voted unanimously to his spot on the roster as he received all 21 votes cast for reserve right fielder.  Ty Cobb edged out Mickey Mantle for the centerfield spot 12 votes to 7 with Tris Speaker receiving the other 2 votes.  Stan Musual won a more competitive vote for left field with 10 votes.   Ed Delahanty received 5 votes with Rickey Henderson and Barry Bonds each claiming 3 votes. 

You were all spot on with the Aaron selection.  The other options all pale in comparison of the achievements of one Henry Aaron.  IMO if anyone else were to have gotten a vote here, it should have been Frank Robinson.  I'm fine with Ty Cobb in centerfield, but not having Mickey Mantle on the team leaves Pete Rose and Ozzie as the only switch hitters on the team.  I probably would have voted for Cobb too, but looking at the team, a switch hitter with speed would have added an extra dimension.  I do have to disagree with the selection of Musual in left.  We're looking for a back-up to Ted Williams here and to me, Musual is Ted Williams Lite with a better glove.  I'd be looking for a right handed hitting alternative coming off the bench for Williams who would be an all around better defensive alternative.  I'd have to go with Ed Delahanty here.  Don't let his 162 game average of 9 home runs fool you.  He played in the height of the dead ball era where 9 home runs put you among the league leaders.  His average of 129 RBI and 141 runs scored were well above the rest of the field here as well as his fielding percentage +/- differential.   His speed and range weren't too shabby either.  He also played some infield as well which gives him the versatility of a Pete Rose. 

Now to the managers.  I've compiled a list of what I consider to be the 21 greatest skippers in the history of the game.  15 of them are already in the Hall of Fame as managers.  6 are either current managers or managers who I feel will one day get elected to the HOF.  There's about 5 managers who nearly made my list, but I had to make the cut-off somewhere.   My apologies go out to Lou Pineilla, Mike Scoscia, Dick Howser, Jim Leyland and Davy Johnson.   I also made my list and neglected winning percentage.   I'm sorry about that but I did list their win/loss record.   Do the math if you want to.   I'll do a blog entry in one week to annouce the winning manager with the complete roster of the All-Time team.   Here's the list....

Walter Alston.   Bkln/LAN 1954-76.  Won 2040 Lost 1613.  7 Pennants, 4 WS titles.

Sparky Anderson.   CinN 1970-78, DetAL 79-95.  Won 2194 Lost 1834.  5 Pennants, 3 WS titles.

Leo Durocher.    Bkln/NL 1939-46, 48, NYG NL 48-55, ChC NL 66-72, Hou NL 72-73.  2008 Wins 1709 Losses.  3 Pennants, 1 WS title.

Ned Hanlon.   BalNL 1889-1907, Also CinNL, Bkln NL, Pit NL.  Won 1313 Lost 1164.  5 Pennants.

Bucky Harris.   Wash AL 1924-28, 35-42, 50-54, Det AL 29-33, Bos AL 1934, Phi NL 43, NYY AL 47-48.  Won 2157 Lost 2218.  3 Pennants, 2 WS titles. 

Miller Huggins.  StL NL 1913-17, NYY AL 18-29.  Won 1413 Lost 1134.  6 Pennants, 3 WS titles.

Tommy Lasorda.   LAD NL 1976-96.  Won 1599 Lost 1439.  4 Pennants, 2 WS titles.

Al Lopez.   Cle AL 1951-56, CWS AL 57-65, 68-69,  Won 1410, Lost 1004.  2 Pennants. 

Connie Mack.   PIT NL 1894-96, Phi AL 1901-50.  3731-3948.  9 Pennants, 5 WS titles.

Joe McCarthy.   ChC NL 1926-30, NYY AL 31-46, Bos AL 48-50.  Won 2125 Lost 1333.  9 Pennants, 7 WS titles.

John McGraw.   Bal NL 1899-1902, NYG NL 02-32.  Won 2763 Lost 1948.  11 Pennants, 3 WS titles.

Bill McKechnie.  New FL 1915, Pit NL 22-26, StL NL 28-29, Bos NL 30-37, Cin NL 38-46.  Won 1896 Lost 1723.  4 Pennants, 2 WS titles.

Frank Selee.   Bos NL 1890-1901, ChC NL 02-05.   Won 1284 Lost 862.  5 Pennants. 

Casey Stengel.   Bkln NL 1934-36, Bos NL 38-43, NYY AL 49-60, NYM NL 62-65.  Won 1905 Lost 1842.  10 Pennants, 7 WS titles.

Earl Weaver.   Bal AL 1968-82, 85-86.  Won 1480 Lost 1060.  4 Pennants, 1 WS title.

Whitey Herzog.   Tex AL 1973, Cal 1974, KCR AL 75-79, StL NL 80-90.  Won 1281 Lost 1125.  3 Pennants.  1 WS title.

Bobby Cox.   Atl NL 1978-81, 90-present, TOR AL 82-85.  Won 2359 Lost 1888.  5 Pennants, 1 WS title.

Joe Torre.   NYM NL 1977-81, Atl NL 82-84. StL NL 90-95, NYY AL 96-2007, LAD NL 08-present.  Won 2196 Lost 1873.  6 Pennants, 4 WS titles.

Tony LaRussa.   CWS AL 1979-86, Oak AL 86-95, StL NL 96-present.  Won 2500 Lost 2178.  5 Pennants, 2 WS titles.

Dick Williams.   Bos AL 1967-69, Oak AL 71-73, Cal AL 74-76, Mont NL 77-81, SDP NL 82-85, SEA AL 86-88.  Won 1571 Lost 1451.  4 Pennants, 2 WS titles.

Billy Martin.   MIN AL 1969, Det AL 71-73, Tex AL 73-75, NYY AL 75-79, 83, 85, 88, Oak AL 80-82.  Won 1253 Lost 1013.  3 Pennants, 2 WS titles.  

As a footnote, I just want to remind everyone that the first World Series was played in 1903, so managers before 1903 could not earn a WS title.   Just a reminder when you judge them.    

Enjoy the blog and the vote.  You should find this as difficult to choose as any of the players!   

 

Category: MLB

Posted on: June 16, 2009 5:00 pm
Score: 108
 

Vote for 3 Best Reserve OUTFIELDERS of All Time

Welcome back my good sports friends!  I want to thank each and every one of you who have contributed and voted on my blogs during the construction of my All-Time Greatest Baseball Team.  We're nearing the end now.  This week we will vote in the final 3 players to the team...the reserve outfielders.  Next week we'll have a final vote on this blog series to pick a manager for our team.  

Before we get to the outfield, its time to put the reserve infield into place.  I listed the stats of 16 players to fill in the infield around Pete Rose as the back-ups.  14 of those 16 players received at least 2 votes, so there was plenty of love for the players listed.  After the final vote count, Albert Pujols got the most votes with 15 to secure him with a back-up spot to Lou Gehrig at first base.  After that it got interesting as there was a 3 way tie for the second most votes....which means I have to toss one of them back.  Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken and Ozzie Smith all received 9 votes.  I was really hoping for some more votes to come in to sort this mess out for me, so since that didn't happen, I must cast the tie breaking vote.  I've decided to place Mike Schmidt at third base because I feel he's a better option there than Pete Rose or Cal Ripken.   If I were to choose between Cal Ripken and Ozzie Smith as a starter for my all time team, I'd give the nod to the Iron Man hands down for his superior run production.   But the issue at hand is for a reserve and I feel that this team could use Ozzie's speed and defense in the late innings more than Cal's bat.  I hate to do this to the player that I probably respect more than any man who's played the game, but I'm going to pick Ozzie Smith to take the final reserve infield position. 

Now we come to the good stuff!  I've listed the four best runner-ups at all 3 outfield positions with their 162 game averages.   I ONLY HAVE ONE RULE!  Please pick one left fielder, one center fielder and one right fielder.   One more time, PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR 2 OR 3 PLAYERS AT THE SAME POSITION!    Without further ado, here is the list....

PLAYER AND POSITION                 AVE/OBP/SLUG            HR      RBI      RUNS      SB      Fldg Pct +/-     Range +/-

Stan Musual,  LF                          331/417/559              25      104      104          4        +.13               -.02
Rickey Henderson,  LF                  279/401/419              16      59        121         74       -.01               +.43
Barry Bonds,  LF                           298/444/607              41      108      121         28        +.06             +.43
Ed Delahanty,  LF                        346/411/505               9        129      141         40        +.26             +.33

Ty Cobb,  CF                               366/433/512               6        103      120         48        +.01             +.25
Mickey Mantle,  CF                       298/421/557              36       102      113         10        +.02             -.05
Ken Griffey Jr.,  CF                       286/372/543              39       113      103         12        -.01              +.11
Tris Speaker,  CF                         345/428/500               7        89        109         25        +.10             +.60

Hank Aaron,  RF                          305/374/555               37       113      107         12        +.05             +.30
Roberto Clemente,  RF                317/359/475               16        87       94           6          -.04             +.37
Al Kaline,  RF                              297/376/480               23        90       93           8          +.07             +.29
Frank Robinson,  RF                    294/389/537               34        105     106         12         +.10             +.19

In case it will help in your selections of reserves, the starting outfield is Ted Williams in left, Willie Mays in center and Babe Ruth in right.   Please remember to check in next week to vote for a manager....and please don't drink and drive!

Category: MLB

Posted on: June 7, 2009 8:35 pm
Score: 130
 

Vote For 3 Best Reserve INFIELDERS of All Time

Of course these guys we're voting for here were never reserves, they're just reserves for my all-time team.  There is a reason we're voting for 3 reserves even though there are 4 infield spots.   About 2 months ago, Pete Rose was voted in as a reserve.  He split his time between the outfield, 1st, 2nd and 3rd base.   I'm thinking since Rose spent most of his career as an infielder that he should be a reserve infielder on my team, rather than an outfielder.   I am NOT considering him as a viable reserve as a shortstop, so I'll ask you all to please make one of your 3 votes for a shortstop.  So for picking my bench I'll take the top vote getting shortstop and the two highest vote getters between the first, second and third basemen.    Rose then will fill in the remaining reserve infielder slot. 

Before we get to this particular list and vote, I'll announce the 3 relief pitchers that you all voted in as the greatest relief pitchers of all time.   Dennis Eckersley and Mariano Rivera tied with 14 votes as the top 2 picks.   Trevor Hoffman garnered 7 votes to win the third spot by a narrow margin over Goose Gossage and Rollie Fingers who each received 5 votes.  I'd say I have a pretty astute group of voters.   To me, Eck and Mo had to be in the top 3.   Hoffman, Gossage, Fingers, Wagner, Sutter, Wilhelm, Quisenberry and Henke would have all been suitable options for the third spot.   

Now before we get to pick the top 3 reserves to join Pete Rose on the infield, let me refresh your memories as to who the starters are just in case you're using that in helping you make your picks.   The all-time greatest infield consists of Lou Gehrig at first, Rogers Hornsby at second, George Brett at third and Honus Wagner at shortstop.   

I'm also making a change in representing the player stats.   One of you posters pointed out that doing a 162 game average may be a more accurate indicator in comparing players than career stats do, so for the purpose of this blog entry, I'm going to give the 162 game average a try...as I tend to believe that poster was right.    I also want to pay my e-respects and e-sympathy for one of my regular blog buddies and fellow Royals poster, MajorE.Reckshun.  Major got banned this past week.   After being a CBS member for 6 months and making superstar, suddenly his screen name became too inappropriate for CBSs...ahem...high standards.   I remember him for his quick witted sense of humor and respect for other members.    The dude knew his sports too, I'll miss Major.   

Okay, without further ado, lets get to the vote.   Remember, just vote for 3 and please make one of your votes for a shortstop.   Also remember, these stats reflect a 162 game average...

PLAYER                    POS     AVE/OBP/SLUG     HR     RBI      Runs     SB       Fldg +/-      Range +/-

Jimmie Foxx             1B       325/428/609       37      134      122       6        +.02           +1.94
Albert Pujols              1B       335/426/626       42      128      124       7        +.01           +2.72
Eddie Murray             1B       287/359/476       27      103       87        6        +.01           +2.76
Johnny Mize              1B       312/397/562       31      115       115      2         +.02           +1.95
Hank Greenberg        1B       313/412/605       38      148       122      7         +.01          +2.79

Nap Lajoie                 2B       338/380/467       5        104       98       25        +.15           +.69
Jackie Robinson         2B      311/409/474       16       86        111      23        +.09           +.24
Eddie Collins              2B      333/424/429        3        75        104      43        +.13           +.24
Ryne Sandberg          2B      285/344/452        21      79         99       26         +.09          +.63

Mike Schmidt             3B      267/380/527        37      107       101      12         +.06          +.55
Brooks Robinson        3B      266/322/401        15      76         69        2          +.19          +.36
Wade Boggs              3B      328/415/443         8       67         100       2          +.12          +.29
Chipper Jones           3B       310/408/486        32      109       110      11         +,02          +.07

Cal Ripken                SS       276/340/447        23      91         89        2          +.11          +.56
Ernie Banks               SS       274/330/500        33     105        84        3          +.08          +.44
Ozzie Smith              SS       262/337/328         2       50         79       37         +13           +.93

There's the list, have fun everyone!

Category: MLB

Posted on: May 31, 2009 8:16 pm
Score: 139
 

Vote for the 3 Greatest RELIEF Pitchers Ever

     Welcome to my blog everyone and thanks to everyone who has been participating in my search to put together the greatest baseball team of all time.  This week we will be completing our pitching staff by picking our 3 late inning relief pitchers. 

     Before we get to the list of candidates and their career statistics, its time to announce who you voted in as the 7 greatest starting pitchers.  Well, actually you voted in the top 6 as there was a 3 way tie for 7th, so I went to the liberty that I afford myself since I don't vote, to break the tie.  Here are the magnificent 7 with their vote totals listed.  The top 5 will be the starting rotation and the 6th and 7th place guys will be the middle/long relief guys.  

1.  Walter Johnson - 23 votes  (Good pick folks, I'll happily take him as my ace)
2.  Cy Young - 21 votes (once again, I like him there)
3.  Sandy Koufax - 15 votes (3rd best ever?  Probably not, but a lefty should go middle of rotation)
4.  Christy Mathewson - 15 votes (Probably is 3rd best ever)
5.  Bob Gibson - 14 votes (best option of 14 vote getting starters)
6.  Nolan Ryan - 14 votes (Perhaps my favorite pitcher of the bunch but not one of my top 7)
7.  Greg Maddux - 9 votes (I picked Maddux over Spahn and Seaver who also received 9 votes.  Comparing the stats was an interesting comparison and none of the 3 were overwhelming favorites over the other 2.  I went with Maddux because he just didn't walk people)

      I probably wouldn't have had Koufax, Gibson and Ryan on my list of top 7.  In fact there are 8 pitchers that weren't in the top 7 in the voting that I'd take over those 3.  I'd have taken lefties Lefty Grove, Rube Waddell or Randy Johnson over Koufax and righties Ed Walsh, Addie Joss, Mordecai Brown, Roger Clemens or Pedro Martinez over both Gibby and the Express.   One more comment before we move on to relief pitchers.  I looked over all the stats from Satchell Paige from both his Negro League days and his major leagues.  There just wasn't a way to compile a stat for him like the majors.  He was way up in age when he finally had his chance to play in the majors and despite his advanced age, he still pitched impressively.  Had he been afforded the opportunity to play in the major leagues like all the others on the list had, there's an outstanding chance that he'd be a member of the magnificent 7. 

    OK, now to the matter at hand.   I have compiled a list of statistics for who I feel are the 28 greatest relief pitchers of all time.   This actually took a bit more research than all the other positions so far, because there are only 5 relief pitchers in the Hall of Fame.   I usually start my list with hall of famers, then look over recent players who played at or near hall of fame levels.   Unlike all other positions, relievers became much more relevent in the 1970s and their role has increased as the decades have passed.   I only ask my voters to please take in account that the role of the closer has been much different in the past 10-12 years than it did from the 70s to the mid 90s.   Up until the 90s, many closers were brought into tie games or close games as early as the 7th inning.   Thus, they didn't put up the huge save numbers and got more decisions.   People in my age bracket realize this, I just wanted to inform the younger voters.   OK, I've chattered long enough, here is my list.  I'm sorry if I left off one of your favorites, but this is my team and if your guy isn't on this list, it means I don't want him on my all-time team.  Yell

PITCHER                      GAMES     INNINGS     WINS     LOSSES     SAVES     ERA     STRIKEOUTS    WALKS     WHIP     ERA+

Mariano Rivera              871         1044.0       68         50            492        2.29     960                245         1.021    199
Dennis Eckersley            1071       3285.2       197       171          390        3.50     2401              738          1.161    116
Rollie Fingers                944         1701.1       114       118           341        2.90     1299              492         1.156     119
Goose Gossage             1002       1809.1       124       107           310        3.01     1502              732         1.232     126
Rob Nenn                      643         715.0         45         42            314        2.98     793                260         1.213     138
Troy Percival                  703         708.2         35         43            358        3.17     781                306         1.108     146
Bruce Sutter                   661         1042.1       68         71            300        2.83     861                309         1.140     136
Billy Wagner                  765          818.0        39         37            385        2.40     1066               270         1.009    180
Lee Smith                      1022       1289.1       71         92            478        3.03      1251              486         1.256     131
Trevor Hoffman              944         1002.0       56         66            566        2.74      1066              274         1.040     147
John Franco                   1119        1245.2       90         87            424        2.89      975                495         1.333     137
Dan Quisenberry            674          1043.1       56         46           244        2.76      379                163         1.175     146
Hoyt Wilhelm                 1070        2254.1       143       122          227        2.52      1610              778          1.126    146
Roy Face                       848          1375.0       104       95            193        3.48      877                362         1.243     109
Sparky Lyle                   899          1390.1        99        76            238        2.88      873                481         1.275     127
Kent Tekulve                 1050        1436.1        94        90            184        2.85      779                491         1.250     132
Jeff Reardon                 880          1132.1        73         77            367        3.16      877               358         1.199     121
Tom Henke                   642          789.2          41        42            311        2.67      861               255          1.092     136
Lindy McDaniel              987          2139.1        141      119           172         3.45      1361             623          1.272     109
John Wetteland             618          765.0          48        45            330         2.93      804               252         1.135     148
Jeff Montgomery           700           868.2         46        52            304         3.27      733               296         1.244     134
Rod Beck                      704           768.0         38        45            286         3.30      644               191         1.164     123
Doug Jones                  846           1128.1        69        79            303         3.30      909               247         1.243     129
Roberto Hernandez       1010         1071.1        67        71            326         3.45      945               462         1.367     131
Mike Marshall                723          1386.2        97        112          188          3.14     880                514         1.294     118
Armando Benitez           762          779            40         47            289         3.13     946                403         1.217     139
Rick Aguilera                 732          1291.1        86         81            318         3.57     1030              351         1.227     117
Randy Myers                 728           884.2         44         63            347         3.19     884                396         1.304     122

I know, once again I've created some tough decisions for all of you.  Consider it one of the few things I'm good at.  Laughing   Have fun everyone!
Category: MLB

Posted on: May 31, 2009 8:16 pm
Score: 144
 

Vote for the 3 Greatest RELIEF Pitchers Ever

     Welcome to my blog everyone and thanks to everyone who has been participating in my search to put together the greatest baseball team of all time.  This week we will be completing our pitching staff by picking our 3 late inning relief pitchers. 

     Before we get to the list of candidates and their career statistics, its time to announce who you voted in as the 7 greatest starting pitchers.  Well, actually you voted in the top 6 as there was a 3 way tie for 7th, so I went to the liberty that I afford myself since I don't vote, to break the tie.  Here are the magnificent 7 with their vote totals listed.  The top 5 will be the starting rotation and the 6th and 7th place guys will be the middle/long relief guys.  

1.  Walter Johnson - 23 votes  (Good pick folks, I'll happily take him as my ace)
2.  Cy Young - 21 votes (once again, I like him there)
3.  Sandy Koufax - 15 votes (3rd best ever?  Probably not, but a lefty should go middle of rotation)
4.  Christy Mathewson - 15 votes (Probably is 3rd best ever)
5.  Bob Gibson - 14 votes (best option of 14 vote getting starters)
6.  Nolan Ryan - 14 votes (Perhaps my favorite pitcher of the bunch but not one of my top 7)
7.  Greg Maddux - 9 votes (I picked Maddux over Spahn and Seaver who also received 9 votes.  Comparing the stats was an interesting comparison and none of the 3 were overwhelming favorites over the other 2.  I went with Maddux because he just didn't walk people)

      I probably wouldn't have had Koufax, Gibson and Ryan on my list of top 7.  In fact there are 8 pitchers that weren't in the top 7 in the voting that I'd take over those 3.  I'd have taken lefties Lefty Grove, Rube Waddell or Randy Johnson over Koufax and righties Ed Walsh, Addie Joss, Mordecai Brown, Roger Clemens or Pedro Martinez over both Gibby and the Express.   One more comment before we move on to relief pitchers.  I looked over all the stats from Satchell Paige from both his Negro League days and his major leagues.  There just wasn't a way to compile a stat for him like the majors.  He was way up in age when he finally had his chance to play in the majors and despite his advanced age, he still pitched impressively.  Had he been afforded the opportunity to play in the major leagues like all the others on the list had, there's an outstanding chance that he'd be a member of the magnificent 7. 

    OK, now to the matter at hand.   I have compiled a list of statistics for who I feel are the 28 greatest relief pitchers of all time.   This actually took a bit more research than all the other positions so far, because there are only 5 relief pitchers in the Hall of Fame.   I usually start my list with hall of famers, then look over recent players who played at or near hall of fame levels.   Unlike all other positions, relievers became much more relevent in the 1970s and their role has increased as the decades have passed.   I only ask my voters to please take in account that the role of the closer has been much different in the past 10-12 years than it did from the 70s to the mid 90s.   Up until the 90s, many closers were brought into tie games or close games as early as the 7th inning.   Thus, they didn't put up the huge save numbers and got more decisions.   People in my age bracket realize this, I just wanted to inform the younger voters.   OK, I've chattered long enough, here is my list.  I'm sorry if I left off one of your favorites, but this is my team and if your guy isn't on this list, it means I don't want him on my all-time team.  Yell

PITCHER                      GAMES     INNINGS     WINS     LOSSES     SAVES     ERA     STRIKEOUTS    WALKS     WHIP     ERA+

Mariano Rivera              871         1044.0       68         50            492        2.29     960                245         1.021    199
Dennis Eckersley            1071       3285.2       197       171          390        3.50     2401              738          1.161    116
Rollie Fingers                944         1701.1       114       118           341        2.90     1299              492         1.156     119
Goose Gossage             1002       1809.1       124       107           310        3.01     1502              732         1.232     126
Rob Nenn                      643         715.0         45         42            314        2.98     793                260         1.213     138
Troy Percival                  703         708.2         35         43            358        3.17     781                306         1.108     146
Bruce Sutter                   661         1042.1       68         71            300        2.83     861                309         1.140     136
Billy Wagner                  765          818.0        39         37            385        2.40     1066               270         1.009    180
Lee Smith                      1022       1289.1       71         92            478        3.03      1251              486         1.256     131
Trevor Hoffman              944         1002.0       56         66            566        2.74      1066              274         1.040     147
John Franco                   1119        1245.2       90         87            424        2.89      975                495         1.333     137
Dan Quisenberry            674          1043.1       56         46           244        2.76      379                163         1.175     146
Hoyt Wilhelm                 1070        2254.1       143       122          227        2.52      1610              778          1.126    146
Roy Face                       848          1375.0       104       95            193        3.48      877                362         1.243     109
Sparky Lyle                   899          1390.1        99        76            238        2.88      873                481         1.275     127
Kent Tekulve                 1050        1436.1        94        90            184        2.85      779                491         1.250     132
Jeff Reardon                 880          1132.1        73         77            367        3.16      877               358         1.199     121
Tom Henke                   642          789.2          41        42            311        2.67      861               255          1.092     136
Lindy McDaniel              987          2139.1        141      119           172         3.45      1361             623          1.272     109
John Wetteland             618          765.0          48        45            330         2.93      804               252         1.135     148
Jeff Montgomery           700           868.2         46        52            304         3.27      733               296         1.244     134
Rod Beck                      704           768.0         38        45            286         3.30      644               191         1.164     123
Doug Jones                  846           1128.1        69        79            303         3.30      909               247         1.243     129
Roberto Hernandez       1010         1071.1        67        71            326         3.45      945               462         1.367     131
Mike Marshall                723          1386.2        97        112          188          3.14     880                514         1.294     118
Armando Benitez           762          779            40         47            289         3.13     946                403         1.217     139
Rick Aguilera                 732          1291.1        86         81            318         3.57     1030              351         1.227     117
Randy Myers                 728           884.2         44         63            347         3.19     884                396         1.304     122

I know, once again I've created some tough decisions for all of you.  Consider it one of the few things I'm good at.  Laughing   Have fun everyone!
Category: MLB

Posted on: May 25, 2009 5:53 pm
Score: 125
 

Vote for the 7 Greatest STARTERS of All Time

Hello everyone, its time to put us together the best pitching staff on the planet.  I'm going to ask you all to vote for your top 7 starting pitchers of all time.   I'm going to put 10 pitchers on my all time team.  The 5 man starting rotation will be the 5 pitchers who receive the most votes here and the 6th and 7th place finishers will be bullpen pitchers.   Next weeks vote, I'll ask you to vote in the last 3 pitchers on my all time staff out of a list of the greatest relievers of all time.  The reason for the 7/3 split in pitching is because of a much greater pool of starting pitchers than relievers.  

Before we get to the list of starters, its time to announce who the greatest right fielder of all time is according to the voters.  Thanks to CBS featuring my blog for a second straight week, once again I received a great volume of responses, so thank you CBS and thank you baseball fans.  Babe Ruth was the runaway winner by garnering 36 of the 62 votes cast.  Hammering Hank Aaron finished second with 11 votes, Roberto Clemente was third with 6 votes and Al Kaline finished 4th with 3 votes.  Frank Robinson, Reggie Jackson and Tony Gwynn all received 2 votes each.   Thank you to all who voted and extra special thanks for all the great talking points that were made to support your choices.  Had I voted, I would have to concur whole heartedly with those of you who picked Ruth.  He was a man among boys at the highest level until he was joined by teammate Lou Gehrig.   The fact that he hit more homers than every other TEAM in the AL TWICE is simply insane.  He was the pioneer of taking MLB out of the dead ball era into its golden age.  To me, he's more than the greatest right fielder of all time, he's the greatest player ever!

Several of you have asked about having a DH on my all time team.  I'm not going to do a separate DH position for this team.   After we're through picking the pitchers we'll vote for 3 reserve infielders and then 3 reserve outfielders.   Then after we're finished voting the all time team, I thought we'ld do a final vote for a manager for this all planet team.   

Now that all the position players have been determined,  here are the starting 8 position players for my all time team...

C - Johnny Bench
1B - Lou Gehrig
2B - Rogers Hornsby
3B - George Brett
SS - Honus Wagner
LF - Ted Williams
CF - Willie Mays
RF - Babe Ruth

2 bench players have already been chosen.  Josh Gibson is the reserve catcher and Pete Rose was voted as an all time bench player due to his versatility.     

Now we get to the task at hand.  I have compiled a list of the 60 greatest starting pitchers of all time.  The first 51 listed are all in the hall of fame and the final 9 listed are either still active, recently retired or deserving, but not in the hall of fame.   I am not including defensive stats on pitchers because I can't think of a single pitcher who gained his fame on his great fielding alone, they get their fame for getting batters out and winning games.   The only new stat that I threw in was the ERA+ stat which is used by some statisticians to help grade pitchers by taking in account of the eras they played in, ball park conditions, whether they pitched in a DH league or not and other factors that may affect a pitchers ERA.  The reason I'm getting this entry out a day late is that I had this just about finished, I was on the 59th pitcher of the 60th listed when I lost the whole kit and kaboodle.   Over 2 hours of typing down the drain.  So here's my second go around at this.   Without further ado, here is the list.   Please remember to vote for 7.  If you want to list them in an order, thats fine, but all votes only count for one vote.  If you can only pick out 5 or 6, that fine, but you're allowed to vote for as many as 7.  Here is the list.....

PITCHER                                 GAMES      STARTS       WINS      LOSSES     ERA      ERA+      WHIP      STRIKEOUTS      WALKS

Grover Alexander                      696          600             373        208          2.56     +135      1.121       2198                951
Chief Bender                            459          384             212        127          2.46     +112      1.113       1711                712
Mordecai Brown                         481          332             239        130          2.06     +138      1.066       1375                673
Jim Bunning                             591          519             224        184          3.27     +114      1.179       2855                1000
Steve Carlton                           741          709             329        244          3.22      +115      1.247       4136               1833
Jack Chesbro                           392           332             198        132          2.68      +110     1.150       1265                690
John Clarkson                          531           518             328        178          2.81     +134      1.209       1978               1191 
Stan Coveleski                         450           385             215        142          2.89     +127      1.251       981                  802
Dizzy Dean                               317           230            150         83           3.02     +130      1.206       1163                453
Don Drysdale                            518           465            209         166         2.95      +121      1.148       2486                855
Red Faber                                669           483            254         213          3.15     +119      1.302       1471                1213
Bob Feller                                 570           484            266         162         3.25      +122      1.316       2581                1764
Whitey Ford                              498           438            236         106          2.75      +133     1.215       1956                1086
Pud Galvin                                697           682            360         308          2.87      +107     1.191       1806                745
Bob Gibson                               528           482            251         174          2.91      +127     1.188       3117                1336
Lefty Gomez                             368            320           189         102          3.34      +125     1.352        1468               1095
Lefty Grove                               616           457            300         141          3.06      +148     1.278        2266               1187
Carl Hubbell                              535           431            253         154          2.98      +130     1.166       1677                725
Catfish Hunter                           500           476            224         166          3.26      +104     1.134       2012                954
Fergie Jenkins                           664           594            284         226          3.34      +115     1.142       3192                997
Walter Johnson                         802           666            417          279          2.17      +147     1.061       3509               1363
Addie Joss                                286           260            160          97           1.89      +142     0.968        920                 364
Tim Keefe                                 599           593            342         225          2.62      +127     1.121        2543               1234
Sandy Koufax                            397           314            165         87            2.76      +131     1.106        2396               817
Bob Lemon                               460            350            207         128          3.23      +119     1.337        1277               1251
Juan Marichal                            471            457            243         142          2.89      +123     1.101        2303               709
Rube Marquard                          536            404           201          177         3.08       +103     1.237       1593               858
Christy Mathewson                     635            551           373          188         2.13       +135     1.059        2502               844
Joe McGinnity                            465            381           246          142         2.66       +120     1.188        1068               812
Hal Newhouser                           488            374           207          150         3.06       +130     1.311        1796              1249
Kid Nichols                                620             561           361         208          2.95       +140     1.222       1868               1268
Phil Niekro                                864             716           318         274          3.35       +115     1.268       3342               1809
Jim Palmer                               558             521           268         152          2.86       +126     1.180       2212               1311
Gaylord Perry                            777             690           314         265          3.11        +117    1.181       3534               1379
Eddie Plank                              623             529           326          194         2.35        +122     1.119       2246              1072
Old Hoss Radbourne                  528             503           309          195         2.67        +119     1.149      1830                875
Eppa Rixey                               692             553            266          251         3.15        +115     1.272      1350               1082
Robin Roberts                           676             609           286          245         3.41        +113     1.170       2357               902
Amos Rusie                              462             427           245          174         3.07        +129     1.350        1934              1704
Nolan Ryan                               807             773           324          292         3.19        +111     1.247       5714              2795
Tom Seaver                              656             647           311          205         2.86        +127     1.121        3640             1390
Warren Spahn                           750             665           363          245         3.09        +118     1.195       2583              1434
Don Sutton                               774             756           324          256         3.26         +108     1.142       3574              1343
Dazzy Vance                             442             347           197          140         3.24         +125     1.230       2045              840
Rube Waddell                           407             340           193          143         2.16         +135     1.102       2316              803
Ed Walsh                                  430             315           195          126         1.82         +146     1.000       1736              617  
Mickey Welch                            564             549           307          210         2.71         +114     1.225       1850              1297
Vic Willis                                   513             471           249          205         2.63         +118     1.209       1651              1212
Early Wynn                               691             612           300           244         3.54         +107     1.329       2334              1775
Cy Young                                 906             815           511           316         2.63         +138     1.130       2803              1217
Bert Blyleven                            692             685           287           250         3.31         +118     1.198       3701              1322
Roger Clemens                         709             707          354           184         3.12         +143      1.173      4672              1580
Tom Glavine                             682             682           305          203         3.54          +118     1.314       2607             1500
Randy Johnson                         605             595           298          164         3.29          +136     1.172       4838            1485 
Greg Maddux                            744             740           355          227         3.16          +132      1.143      3371             999
Pedro Martinez                          467             400           214          99           2.91          +154     1.051      3117             752
Mike Mussina                            537             536           270          153         3.68          +123     1.192       2813           785 
Curt Schilling                            569             436           216          146          3.46          +127     1.137      3116           711
John Smoltz                             708             466           210          147          3.26          +127     1.170      3011           992

Thats the list folks, enjoy.  I'm sorry if I left off a favorite of yours.  I did leave 5 hall of famers off this list as I felt they had no chance of garnering any votes, but since they are HOFers, I'll give them mention.  They are Jesse Haines, Waite Hoyt, Ted Lyons, Herb Pennock and Red Ruffing.   I know the decisions will be hard here, but just remember, it took me many hours to put this list together and then post it here.   Your votes are very appreciated!    
           

Category: MLB

Posted on: May 16, 2009 6:08 pm
Score: 125
 

Vote for the Greatest RIGHT FIELDER of All Time

First off, I want to thank the powers that be at CBS.   I'm pretty quick to criticize them when I disapprove of a policy or a change, but I have to also show my gratitude when they throw me a bone.  They featured this blog last week when we were voting for the greatest center fielder of all time and the response I got was tremendous and insightful.   I also want to thank all of you who took the time to stop by, vote and give your reasons.  I'd love to see all of you to stick around as we still have much more team building to do.   This week we'll be voting for the final position on the field before we move to the pitchers and the bench. 

Before we get to this vote, its time to announce the center fielder who you all voted as the best all time.  The clear cut winner was Willie Mays who garnered 35 of of the 75 votes that were cast.   Ty Cobb finished second with 19 votes, Mickey Mantle was a distant third with 6 votes and Ken Griffey Jr. was fourth with 5 votes.  Eight other centerfielders received either one or two votes.   Had I voted, I would have been torn between my heart and my head.   I began my love affair with baseball in the late 60s, so one of my early favorite players was Willie Mays and I jumped at every opportunity to watch a game he played in.  Unfortunately, back then there was only one or two baseball games a week to watch back then and you didn't get to choose what game they'ld decide to televise.  So my heart is with Willie Mays.  This being said, I can't overlook the chance of my all time team having a .366 lifetime batting average and .433 OBP leading off for me.  2246 runs scored and 892 stolen bases tells me that in those 43% of the time he reaches base, he's a great bet to score a run.  Judging from the defensive stats, Cobb appears to be on par with Mays, at the very least pretty darned close, so I would have personally picked Cobb.   Due to the need of a true leadoff hitter for this all time team, I may have chosen Speaker or Hamilton over Mays due to their speed, OBP and defense.   

Now we get to the matter at hand.   Who is the greatest right fielder.  If I was a slacker, I could have probably gotten by with just listing 3 or 4 names on my list and let it fly, but as you know, I'm a rather thorough fellow and I want to give as many great players as I can the recognition that they deserve.  My list consists of 22 past and present right fielders.  16 of these 22 are in the Hall of fame and the other 6 are a mix of current players or retired players who aren't in the hall but had distinguished careers.   The 7 HOFers not listed are Elmer Flick, Harry Hooper, King Kelly, Chuck Klein, Tommy McCarthy, Enos Slaughter and Ross Youngs.   I also nearly included the stats of two great retired right fielders that narrowly missed my cut, Andre Dawson and Dave Parker.  Some of you may feel that I should have included their numbers rather than the 6 non-HOFers I did include, well, sorry, but its my blog.   At least you vote...I'll only cast a vote if we have a tie.   Anyway, without further ado, here's my list....

PLAYER                             AVE/OBP/SLUG        HR      RBI       RUNS      SB       Fldg +/-       Range +/-

Hank Aaron                       305/377/555          755     2297     2174      240       +.05           +.30
Roberto Clemente              317/362/475          240     1305     1416      83         -.04            +.37
Sam Crawford                    309/362/452          97       1535     1391      366        +.13           -.22
Kiki Cuyler                        321/386/474           128     1065     1295      328        +.01           +.04
Tony Gwynn                      338/388/359           135     138       1383      319        +.09           +.26
Harry Heilmann                 342/410/520           183     1539     1291       113        -.04           -.35
Reggie Jackson                 262/358/490           563     1551     1702      228         -.10           +.17
Al Kaline                           297/379/480           399     1583     1622      137         +.07          +.29
Willie Keeler                     341/388/415            33       810      1719       495         +.20          -.34
Mel Ott                             304/414/533           511     1860     1859       89           +.06         -.22
Sam Rice                          322/374/427           34       1078     1514       351         even         +.02
Frank Robinson                 294/392/537           586      1812     1829      204         +.10          +.19
Babe Ruth                         342/474/690           714      2213     2174      123         +.02          -.20
Sam Thompson                 331/384/505           127      1299     1256      229          +.29         -.23
Paul Waner                        333/404/473          113      1309      1627     104          +.02         -.05
Dave Winfield                    283/355/475           465      1833     1669      223          +.07         +.21
Vladimir Guerrero               322/389/573           393      1271     1129      173          -.18          +.29
Sammy Sosa                     273/344/534           609      1667      1475     234          -.05          +.32
Ichiro Suzuki                     330/376/431            77       481        898       320          +.10         +.43
Larry Walker                      313/400/465           383      1311      1355     230          +.07         +.18
Dwight Evans                     272/370/470            385      1384      1470     78           +.09          +.27
Gary Sheffield                    292/394/515           501       1640     1606     252          +.02          +.08

Have fun ladies and gentlemen and thanks again!

             
Category: MLB

Posted on: May 9, 2009 4:09 pm
Score: 114
 

Vote For the Greatest CENTER FIELDER of All Time

Welcome back everyone.  This time around we'll get to vote on the greatest center fielder of all time.  Before we get around to that, its time to announce the winner of the left field vote.   Ted Williams won the vote running away by receiving 16 of the 26 votes that were cast.   Stan Musual who got much mention and praise finished second with 4 votes.  Rickey Henderson received 3 votes, Barry Bonds got 2 votes and Ed Delahanty captured the other vote.   Had I had a vote, I would have honestly had to vote for Barry Bonds.  Although I personally don't recognize his single season record of 73 homers or his career record of 762, he was still the best without the juice.  Even if you throw out the home runs, he still had Ted beat in speed and defense.  Barry would also make a good leadoff hitter for an all-time team with his 500+ career stolen bases and OBP well above .400.   Ted Williams was an amazing player and probably the best pure hitter of all time.  With the steroid factor going for Bonds padding his numbers, Ted undoubtedly lost over 700 hits, perhaps 150 homers and over 400 RBI due to time in the service.   All I can say is you folks did an excellent job of stating your cases when you cast your votes.   I think left field will be the most star-studded pack of any position.   I apologize for not including Shoeless Joe Jackson on the list.  He was banned from baseball at the age of 31, probably unfairly in my opinion.  I think he was the baby that got thrown out with the bath water in the Black Sox scandal. 

I've made a list of the 18 greatest center fielders of all-time.   17 of them are in the hall of fame and one is still an active player.   This list should also induce some good discussion as a number to top centerfielders span over 110 years of baseball history.   In giving fielding statistics, I've been giving a +/- grading comparing each fielder to his peers over the span of their careers to be fair to the old timers when the gloves were smaller, the playing surfaces were more challenging and the official scorers more strict on charging errors.   That works out great most of the time, but there is something else to take into consideration.   In recent years, the major league average for fielding percentages for outfielders now are in the neighborhood of .985 - .990.   So this would make it impossible for modern day centerfielders such as Griffey and Puckett to attain a +.22 fielding percentage grade like Hugh Duffy got because the MLB average that Duffy had to compete against was .921.   Well, I think I've done enough blabbering, on with the list....

PLAYER                                 AVE/OBP/SLUG        HR      RBI      Runs       SB         Fldg +/-        Range +/-

Richie Ashburn                       308/397/462          29       586      1322       234       -.02              +.43
Earl Averill                             318/395/534          238     1164     1224       70         +.02             +.29
Max Carey                             285/361/386          70       800      1545       738       +.03             +.60
Ty Cobb                                366/433/512          117     1937     2246       892       +.01             +.25
Earle Combs                          325/397/462          58       632      1186        96         +.07             +.30
Joe Dimaggio                         325/398/579          361     1537    1390        30         +.04             +.40
Larry Doby                             283/387/490          253     969       960         47         +.07             +.05
Hugh Duffy                            324/384/449          106      1302    1552        574       +.22             +.12
Billy Hamilton                         344/455/432          40       736      1690        912       +.03             +.26
Mickey Mantle                         298/423/557          536     1509     1677       153       +.02             -.05
Willie Mays                             302/387/557          660     1903     2062       338       even             +.25
Kirby Puckett                           318/363/477         207      1085     1071       134       +.04             +.28
Edd Roush                              323/369/446          68       981       1099      268        +.07             +.37
Duke Snider                            295/381/540         407      1333     1259       99         even             -.33
Tris Speaker                           345/428/500          117      1529     1882      432        +.10             +.60
Lloyd Waner                           316/353/393           27       598       1201      67          +.10             +.47
Hack Wilson                            307/395/545          244     1062      884        52         -.06              -.02
Ken Griffey Jr.                         287/372/545          613      1777     1622      184        -.01              +.11


There's the list, have at ladies and gentlemen!
Category: MLB

Posted on: May 2, 2009 3:50 pm
Score: 108
 

Vote for the Greatest LEFT FIELDER of All Time

I want to thank everyone who's been participating and voting on my blogs.   Its greatly appreciated and its a great motivator for me to keep this fun and to continue this labor of love.  

Lets start this off with the final results on the vote for the greatest shortstop.  I was pleased to see that many of you hold a fond appreciation of the players who played back in the days when baseball was the ONLY thriving sport.   The Flying Dutchman, Honus Wagner  won this vote rather easily with 13 votes.   "Iron Man" Cal Ripken placed second with 6, "Let Play Two" Ernie Banks received 4 votes and the "Wizard" Ozzie Smith placed 4th with 2 votes.  

So now, we have the infield set, with Johnny Bench behind the plate and around the diamond with the Iron Horse at first, Rogers Hornsby at second, Pine Tar at third and the Flying Dutchman at short.  We have two permanent bench players of Josh Gibson and Charlie Hustle.  Apparently many of the greats have nicknames.  

Now is where it gets fun!  We get to start the outfield in left field.  In my list of the 17th greatest left fielders of all time I spot about 5 or 6 of the greatest 15-20 hitters/players of all time.  I think this position may require you to think a bit harder than prior positions.   In my list, I've included 13 players who have already been enshrined into the HOF, 2 that are awaiting enshrinement, one who is not yet eligible for the HOF and one active player.   To try to keep my list as short as I could, I did toss 5 HOF left fielders out of the voting, but since they had great and worthy careers, let me give them a mention.   They are Chick Hafey, Joe Kelly, Ralph Kiner, Jim O'Rourke and Zack Wheat.    Once again, rather than listing fielding percentages, I went with a +/- system to each players peers, both in fielding percentage and range.  You may notice, like I did while compiling this list that these many of these players didn't become legends with their gloves.   Enough of my rambling now, on with the list.....

PLAYER                             AVE/OBP/SLUG          HR       RBI       Runs       SB       Fldg +/-      Range +/-

Lou Brock                          293/344/410            149      900       1610       938     -.13            +.26
Jesse Burkett                     338/415/446             75       952       1720       389     -.19            -.04
Fred Clarke                        312/386/429             67      1015      1619       506     +.07           +.27
Ed Delahanty                      346/412/505            101     1464      1599       455     +.26           +,33
Goose Goslin                      316/387/500            248     1609      1483       175      -.07           +.05
Heinie Manush                    330/377/479            110     1183      1287       114      +.11          -.09
Joe Medwick                       324/362/505             205     1383      1198       42       +.04           even
Stan Musual                       331/418/559             475     1951      1949       78       +.13           -.02
Al Simmons                       334/380/535              307     1827      1507      88        +.14          +.16
Willie Stargell                     282/363/529             475      1540     1195       17        -.09           +.15
Billy Williams                      290/364/492             426      1475     1410       90        +.04          +.23
Ted Williams                      344/483/634             521      1839     1798       24        -.03           -.21
Carl Yastrzemski                 285/382/462             452      1844     1816       168      +.05          +.35
Barry Bonds                        298/444/607             762      1996     2227       514       +.03         +.14
Rickey Henderson                279/401/419             297      1115     2295      1406      -.01          +.43
Jim Rice                             298/352/502             382       1451    1249        58        +.03         +.26
Manny Ramirez                   315/412/594             532       1740    1463        37        -.05          -.10

HAVE FUN WITH THIS ONE!!!!!!                
Category: MLB

Posted on: April 26, 2009 7:49 pm
Score: 125
 

Vote for the Greatest SHORTSTOP of All Time

Welcome again everyone!  Its time to vote for a shortstop.   Over the past two entries we voted on whether or not Pete Rose should be on the team as a reserve and we voted for the greatest third baseman.   After 2 weeks of voting, its evident that the overwhelming majority want Pete on the team.  There were some absolutely good and influential arguments on both sides in that issue.   Personally, I think we could find a better #2 guy at every position on the diamond than Rose, he is the most versatile great player in the modern era, so I don't have a problem with him on the bench since he can realistically be plugged into 5 different positions. 
In the vote for the greatest third baseman, George Brett edged out Mike Schmidt 14-11, with 5 votes for the Human Vacuum Cleaner and a vote to Wade "The Chicken Man" Boggs.   This was a vote that I was much happier to count than to cast.   Naturally, being a Royals fan, I was rooting for George, but I know full well that Michael Jack Schmidt was just as great.   There was some great debate in the third base matchup.   One thing is positively clear, Schmidt is the greatest NL third baseman and Brett is the greatest AL third baseman, and Brooks was the king with the glove.   Nevertheless, Pete Rose and George Brett are now members of the All Time Great team. 
Now to the task at hand.  I will now submit the 19 greatest shortstops of all time, in my humble opinion.   16 are hall of famers and 3 are current major leaguers.   I did omit 5 HOF shortstops, Lou Boudreau, Travis Jackson, Rabbit Maranville, Joe Tinker and Phil Rizzuto due to trying some sort of brevity and the fact that their overall statistics pale in comparison to the 19 listed.     Speaking of the 19 listed, here they are....

Player                       AVE/OBPSLG       Hits      HR     RBI     Runs      SB      Fldg+/-    Range+/-

Luis Aparicio              262/313/343       2677    83     791     1335      506     +.10        +.53
Luke Appling             310/399/398       2749    45     1116    1319      179     -.04         +.37
Dave Bancroft            279/355/358       2004    32     591     1048      145     +.03         +.61
Ernie Banks               274/333/500       2583    512   1636    1305      50       +.08        +.44
Joe Cronin                301/390/468       2285     170   1424    1233     87        +.05        +.32
George Davis            295/361/405        2660    73     1435    1540     615      +.18        +.35
Hughie Jennings        311/390/406       1527     18     840      994      359       +.24       +.68
Pee Wee Reese         269/366/377       2170     126   885      1338     232      +.04       +.26
Cal Ripken Jr.            276/340/447       3184     431   1685    1647     36        +.11       +.55
Joe Sewell                 312/391/413       2226      49    1055    1141     74        +.07       +,53
Ozzie Smith               262/337/328       2460     28     793     1257     580       +.13       +.93
Arky Vaughn              318/406/453       2103     96     926      1173    118       +.02       +.23
Honus Wagner           327/391/466       3415     101   1732     1736    772       +.14       +.45
Bobby Wallace           268/332/358       2309      34     1121    1057    201       +.13       +.34
John M. Ward            275/314/341        2104     26     867      1408    540*     +.02       +.19
Robin Yount              285/346/430       3142      251    1406    1632    271       even      +.09
Derek Jeter               316/386/459       2557      210    1013    1479    278       +.03      -.06
Alex Rodriguez          306/389/578       2404      553    1606    1605    283       +.05      +.27
Omar Vizquel            273/339/355       2663       77     893      1364    385       +.12      +.26

* =  John Montgomery Ward's career began in 1878, however stolen bases were not recorded until 1885, so every base he stole in his first seven years of his career is unknown, but probably many as he was one of the fastest of his time.  In 1887 he lead the league with 111 stolen bases.      By the way, he was also an accomplished pitcher with well over 200 decisions, he posted a .610 winning percentage.                     

Category: MLB

Posted on: April 18, 2009 4:07 pm
Score: 116
 

Vote For the Greatest THIRD Baseman of All Time

 Welcome back my friends to the blog that never ends, we're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside

I should have started one of my rock and roll blog entries with that line.  Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed your Easter holiday and its time for me to get back to presenting you the greatest baseball players of all time for you to vote in the greatest team.  This week we will decide on the greatest third baseman.  My list includes all 10 of the third basemen in the hall of fame plus Chipper Jones who in my opinion should be in this discussion as well.  Before you ask "Where's Alex Rodriguez?", I already did the research and Alex still has logged about 500 more games at shortstop, so hold your horses until the next round.   I've research both the career offensive and defensive stats for these 11 players.  Rather than using the players actual fielding percentage I'm using a +/- system in comparing their defensive skills to that of players in their era.  I'm using the same system for each players range.   In the early 1900s infields were poorly manicured compared to modern standards and gloves were much smaller, so fielding percentages were much lower in the 20th century. 

Last week I posed the question as to whether or not Pete Rose should be a substitute or a bench player on my 25 man roster.   The number of replies and votes were light, but the content of those who opined was very solid and informative.   I'd like to leave that issue up for a vote for at least another week, as I'd like a larger sampling to make a determination, so please, if you haven't done so already, please go to my previous entry, read the posts and cast your vote.

Without further ado, here is the list of the 11 greatest third baseman of all time...Pick your number 1.

        PLAYER                                AVE/OBP/SLUG     HR    RBI    Runs    SB      Hits     FldgPct   Range

  • Frank (Homerun) Baker      .307/.363/.442      96     987     887    235    1838    +.07      +.19
  • Wade Boggs                     .328/.415/443       118   1014   1513     24    3010    +.12      +.29
  • George Brett                     .305/.373/.487      317   1595   1583    201   3154     -.02      +.40
  • Jimmy Collins                    .294/.344/.409       65    983    1055    194   1999    +.25      +.29
  • George Kell                       .306/.368/.414       78    870      881     51    2054    +.16      +.09
  • Freddie Lindstrom              .311/.351/.449      103   779      895     84    1747    +.12      +.11
  • Eddie Matthews                  .271/.378/.509      509   1453   1509    68    2315    +.06      +.24
  • Brooks Robinson                .267/.325/.401      268   1357   1232    28    2848    +.19      +.36
  • Mike Schmidt                     .267/.384/.527      548   1595   1506   174    2234   +.06      +.55
  • Pie Traynor                        .320/.362/.435       58   1273    1183   158   2416    even     +.30
  • Chipper Jones                    .310/.407/.548      409   1378   1382   138   2285    +.02      -.21
Category: MLB

Posted on: April 11, 2009 5:34 pm
Score: 132
 

Should Pete Rose Be On My 25 Man Roster?

I wanted to put together a vote for the greatest all-time third baseman this weekend, but I don't have the time to put into it due to my out of town Easter plans.  So I decided to just do a shorty this weekend that won't require research, writing and a buttload of typing. 

To put together a roster of the greatest players/team of all time, one must also have a great bench of players who aren't exactly the greatest at their position but would provide great enough hitting and fielding so that you don't have much of a drop off when you replace one of your starters.  I plan on having 10 pitchers on this 25 man roster and there will be 8 starters so that will leave room for 7 bench players.  One bench spot has already been taken by my own direction which was Josh Gibson.  The reason that I wish to hold a special vote for Pete Rose is because he is the "Hit King", but due to the fact that he played a varied number of positions throughout his career, he'll  probably not get selected as the best at any one of them.   So the purpose of this entry is simple.  Vote either "yes" or "no" on Pete Rose as one of the 6 remaining bench players.    I ask that you put your biases aside on Pete Rose the person and vote on how you value him as a player.   I'm not going to opine on whether or not I think Rose should or shouldn't be, but I will say that its my belief that Rose's gambling did not have an effect with his performance as a player on the field. 

I cannot finish this blog entry without announcing YOUR choice as the Greatest Second Baseman of All-Time.  Rogers Hornsby was the winner with 14 votes.  Nap Lajoie finished 2nd with 7 and Jackie Robinson finished third with 5.  Eddie Collins and Ryne Sandberg each got 3 votes for fourth.   So Rogers Hornsby joins Johnny Bench, Lou Gehrig and Josh Gibson as permanent members on my 25 man team of all-time greats.   Due to their good showings, Lajoie and Robinson should be thrown into a later vote for filling out the bench.   Now that its all decided, I'll offer my own opinion.   For an all-time team, I want excellent defense up the middle (catcher, second, short and center field) as well as great hitting.  Of all the second basemen on my list Nap Lajoie was clearly the superior fielder and his batting average and OBP were high on the list as well.  And although he played in the dead ball era, his career 1599 RBIs actually beat Hornsby out by 15.   I'd have given my vote to Nap Lajoie. 

One last thing before I hit "Submit", I'm not going to have a DH spot on my all-time roster.   Although I love to watch runs being scored, don't consider me a huge fan of the DH rule.  Players who finished their careers prior to the early 70s were not afforded the opportunity of extending their careers another year or two.   This is one of the reasons I generally give the old timers a little lee way over the modern era players when comparing the two.

There is another thing worth mentioning.  In the past 7-10 days, the site that I use to gleen my defensive stats, baseball-reference.com has reformatted and the fielding charts have been affected.   I'm still trying to figure out their latest method of rating a players defensive range.   If any of you informed posters feel you understand it, please take the time to clarify it for me.    

Anyway, I thank you all for contributing to my blog and I wish you all a very Happy Easter. 

Category: MLB

Posted on: April 11, 2009 5:34 pm
Score: 136
 

Should Pete Rose Be On My 25 Man Roster?

I wanted to put together a vote for the greatest all-time third baseman this weekend, but I don't have the time to put into it due to my out of town Easter plans.  So I decided to just do a shorty this weekend that won't require research, writing and a buttload of typing. 

To put together a roster of the greatest players/team of all time, one must also have a great bench of players who aren't exactly the greatest at their position but would provide great enough hitting and fielding so that you don't have much of a drop off when you replace one of your starters.  I plan on having 10 pitchers on this 25 man roster and there will be 8 starters so that will leave room for 7 bench players.  One bench spot has already been taken by my own direction which was Josh Gibson.  The reason that I wish to hold a special vote for Pete Rose is because he is the "Hit King", but due to the fact that he played a varied number of positions throughout his career, he'll  probably not get selected as the best at any one of them.   So the purpose of this entry is simple.  Vote either "yes" or "no" on Pete Rose as one of the 6 remaining bench players.    I ask that you put your biases aside on Pete Rose the person and vote on how you value him as a player.   I'm not going to opine on whether or not I think Rose should or shouldn't be, but I will say that its my belief that Rose's gambling did not have an effect with his performance as a player on the field. 

I cannot finish this blog entry without announcing YOUR choice as the Greatest Second Baseman of All-Time.  Rogers Hornsby was the winner with 14 votes.  Nap Lajoie finished 2nd with 7 and Jackie Robinson finished third with 5.  Eddie Collins and Ryne Sandberg each got 3 votes for fourth.   So Rogers Hornsby joins Johnny Bench, Lou Gehrig and Josh Gibson as permanent members on my 25 man team of all-time greats.   Due to their good showings, Lajoie and Robinson should be thrown into a later vote for filling out the bench.   Now that its all decided, I'll offer my own opinion.   For an all-time team, I want excellent defense up the middle (catcher, second, short and center field) as well as great hitting.  Of all the second basemen on my list Nap Lajoie was clearly the superior fielder and his batting average and OBP were high on the list as well.  And although he played in the dead ball era, his career 1599 RBIs actually beat Hornsby out by 15.   I'd have given my vote to Nap Lajoie. 

One last thing before I hit "Submit", I'm not going to have a DH spot on my all-time roster.   Although I love to watch runs being scored, don't consider me a huge fan of the DH rule.  Players who finished their careers prior to the early 70s were not afforded the opportunity of extending their careers another year or two.   This is one of the reasons I generally give the old timers a little lee way over the modern era players when comparing the two.

There is another thing worth mentioning.  In the past 7-10 days, the site that I use to gleen my defensive stats, baseball-reference.com has reformatted and the fielding charts have been affected.   I'm still trying to figure out their latest method of rating a players defensive range.   If any of you informed posters feel you understand it, please take the time to clarify it for me.    

Anyway, I thank you all for contributing to my blog and I wish you all a very Happy Easter. 

Category: MLB

Posted on: April 2, 2009 5:44 pm
Score: 124
 

Vote for the Greatest SECOND BASEMAN of All Time

  • Thank you so much to all who contributed to the first baseman vote.  I was astonished at the feedback for such a blowout vote.  It should come as no surprise that Lou Gehrig was the runaway winner.   Jimmie Foxx and Albert Pujols were pretty much the favorites for runner-up, so I'll hang on to those guys for a later BENCH vote. 

I almost always do my new entries on Saturdays, but this Saturday I have a day long fantasy league draft with my buddies.  We've done this league for about 12 years now.  Its a keeper league and a money league as well.  This being said and having some spare time today, lets start early on the second base vote.

I have a list of who I feel are the 18 greatest second basemen of all-time.  Of this list, the top 14 are hall of famers and the last 4 listed are possible or deserving future hall of famers.  Due to a false notion of mine, I left Pete Rose off the 1st baseman list thinking that he played more games as a second baseman.  Well, I should have looked him up before posting last Saturday as he actually did play more games as a first baseman.   So I have included him on the second base list.   If he doesn't win this vote, he would make an excellent bench candidate since he played significant time in his career in left field, right field and third base as well. 

I am including my own style of fielding stats for second baseman and subsequent positions.  I've chosen NOT to post their lifetime fielding percentages because of the changes of fielding gloves, and the way official scoring has been conducted over the last century.  A .970 fielding percentage for a second baseman in 2000 would be consider horrible, but in 1950 it would be average and in 1920 that would be considered exceptional.   Instead I'm doing a +/- rating in both fielding percentage and range factor in comparison of that players contemporaries during their career.   So if I give a player a +.05 in fielding percentage that means he may have had a .980 fielding percentage when the league average was .975.   Range factor will be graded the same as range factor varies from year to year as well. 

Without further ado, I post my list.  I did leave off Hall of Famers Johnny Evers, Phil Rizzuto, Bill Mazaroski and Billy Herman because their statistics were rather miniscule both offensively and defensively compared to the other players.  Feel free to  vote for anyone not on the list, but be advised, chances are your guy probably won't win the vote.

          NAME                            HITS      AVE     OBP     SLUG     HR    RBI      Runs     SB      Fldg     Range

  • Rod Carew                     3053     .328    .395    .429      92     1015    1424     353    -.04     +.33
  • Eddie Collins                  3315     .333    .424    .428      47     1300    1821     744    +.12     +.24
  • Bobby Doerr                   2042     .288    .362    .461      223   1247    1094     54      +.09     +.45
  • Nellie Fox                      2663      .288    .349    .363      35     790     1279     76      +.07     +,54
  • Frankie Frisch                 2880     .316    .369    .432      105   1244    1532     419    +.09     +.41
  • Charlie Gehringer           2839      .320    .404    .480      184   1427    1774     181    +.08     +.20
  • Rogers Hornsby              2930     .358    .434     .577     301   1584     1579     135    +.01    -.15
  • Nap Lajoie                     3242      .338    .380     .467      83    1599    1504     380    +.14     +.69
  • Tony Lazzeri                  1840      .292    .380     .467     178    1191    986      148    -.01      -.15
  • Bid McPhee                    2250      .271    .355     .372     53      1067   1678     568    +.23     +.61
  • Joe Morgan                    2517      .271    .395     .427     268    1133   1650     689     +.04    +.34
  • Jackie Robinson              1518     .311     .410     .471     137    734     947      197     +.08    +.24
  • Ryne Sandberg               2164     .285     .344     .452     282    1061   1318     344     +.08    +.63  
  • Red Schoendienst           2449      .289    .338     .387      84     773     1223     89       +.08    +.40
  • Pete Rose                      4256      .303    .375     .409     160    1314    2165    198      even   +.08
  • Craig Biggio                    3060      .281    .363     .433     291    1175   1844     414      +.02   +.40
  • Roberto Alomar               2734      .300    .371     .443     210    1134   1508     474      +.03   +.33
  • Jeff Kent                        2461      .290     .356    .500     377     1518   1320     94       -.02    +.38

There's your list.   I have a good feeling this isn't going to be the slam dunk vote like first base was.  Lets have some chat along with your vote.   Have fun everyone!   Sorry about the crooked columns as usual.  No, its not you, whether you're drunk or not, the columns are crooked, but at least you have the numbers.    And to tell you the truth, I'm still a hunt and peck typist when it comes to numbers, so this is a labor of love. 

  

 

 

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Baseball's Flawed Statistics Ch 1: quality starts
1

September 15, 2009 7:57 am
who are the best rock singers?
Who are rock and roll's greatest singers?
25

September 10, 2009 2:03 pm
Politics and Religion and Trolls
Brandon Marshall Week 1 prediction
2

September 9, 2009 2:40 pm
Gettin My Nelz-0n
100 Greatest Rap/Hip-Hop Songs of All-Time
0

September 9, 2009 12:47 am
Whole Earth Anti-war Sports lover
2009 Fantasy Baseball
0

September 7, 2009 6:27 pm
Great minds and maybe Sports
So if you had to pick a pair........Round 2
12

September 2, 2009 6:03 am
NCAA Football Title Hopes
Lou Holtz's prediction: ND vs. Florida in BCS!
5

August 24, 2009 3:53 pm
C'Rocks Licorice Pizza
Cleve's Top 5 Video's
2

August 19, 2009 5:19 pm
Packers, Brewers, Badgers, and NASCAR
2009 NFC NORTH CHAMPS - THE GREEN BAY PACKERS !!!
0

August 18, 2009 4:37 pm
The Blues Lounge
A true Hangover tale...........
12

August 17, 2009 3:31 pm
Matt Abedi's Sporting Universe
Shaping the 2010 Roster for the Oakland Athletics
4

August 12, 2009 3:06 am
CusetheMoose15
NFL vs College Fotball
0

August 11, 2009 9:54 am
Huskerpower's Sports!
My first fantasy draft of the year
0

August 9, 2009 4:18 pm
Random Sports Musings from a Random Fan
GT's Annual NBA mock Draft 2.0 Team
0

August 3, 2009 8:10 pm
Fish In The Sea!
Dumb Drunken Drivers!!!
16

July 30, 2009 9:10 pm
1990-Present Fantasy Leagues
1990-Present Fantasy Football Leagues
57

July 28, 2009 10:06 pm
Welcome To The Terrordome
Kobe & Michael - The Men in the Mirror
1

July 28, 2009 8:06 am
The Mind of Edwardsfan99
From the World Of Twitter
8

July 26, 2009 8:36 pm
The Sports Report
MLB- Chicago White Sox 5, Tampa Bay Rays 0
0

July 23, 2009 9:40 pm
Bandages & Tourniquets
Darryl Strawberry--a Life Coach?
0

July 22, 2009 11:16 pm
Goblue's blog of all things baseball
mlb draft picks
2

July 21, 2009 5:19 pm
Thoughts From Tennessee
09' Fantasy TE Rankings
0

July 19, 2009 1:13 am
Real Sports/Slam/Jam/Tag Em/Bag Em
New Engalnd Pats
0

July 16, 2009 5:13 pm
We Believe
Mid-Season Awards ---> Rest of 2009 predictions
6

July 15, 2009 2:22 pm
The Spartan Speaks
Dr. Dirty Dikrod, Snakeoil Saleman
13

July 11, 2009 10:21 am
Hoopsi did it again
Larry Bird: A Racist??
2

July 9, 2009 9:15 pm
NASCAR UPDATES
Mikeyfan's Mid Season Report Card - Toyota
4

July 9, 2009 8:29 am
Wrongo's Wrants
Shaq States Desire for new Nickname
0

July 2, 2009 12:57 pm
KC Royals
The Royal Bench
1

July 1, 2009 2:06 am
Stories and Experiences
Things that Irritate You Part 3
6

June 29, 2009 10:38 pm
The Rhetorical Mouthpiece!
Did you ever play ultimate?
7

June 27, 2009 8:55 pm
The Doctor Is In
The Real Threat of Steroids Remains
0

June 17, 2009 5:09 pm
My Two Cents
AL Allstar Game Lineup and MidpointAwards
0

June 17, 2009 12:18 am
Cynical Sidd's Sardonic Summations
Carnac's Corner
1

June 12, 2009 5:42 pm
Royals Baseball 24/7
Batters the Royals could have had.
2

June 4, 2009 10:11 pm
Bass
The Beckett bashing?
1

June 4, 2009 9:49 am
Sports, Sports, and Whatever I feel like
2009 MLB All-Star Game
0

June 2, 2009 7:05 pm
The Circular File
Sans "bad" officials, what would we talk about?
5

May 30, 2009 7:57 pm
My never ending Story......
Reason 8,465 to dislike the NBA....
1

May 26, 2009 11:33 pm
LeBron v Kobe.. NOT EVEN A QUESTION
LeBron V Kobe... SHOULD NOT BE AN ARGUMENT
1

May 25, 2009 12:03 am
KC Krazy
Royals on there Yearly Skid
0

May 15, 2009 5:57 pm
CowBell Nation
My Letter to Joe Maddon
4

May 14, 2009 10:20 am
Various stuff I feel like talking about.
What song(s) did you karaoke recentlly?
13

May 11, 2009 10:34 pm
No Longer the Same Old Bears
The NBA Fix Continues
7

April 29, 2009 2:11 pm
the first
Twickenham - home of English Rugby
0

April 29, 2009 7:42 am
NEW MLB GAME!
MORE Soap Opera Tales
4

April 29, 2009 12:34 am
Cat's litter box
Life is just crazy, or I'd be around more
4

April 22, 2009 9:29 pm
You know you have no clue when you say..
UFC Hater
0

April 19, 2009 4:45 pm
Travelogue !
Travelogue!
2

April 18, 2009 2:49 am
Mondo Musings
Fantasy Voodoo
2

April 14, 2009 11:39 am
Bingo Coverall Blog!
Same Team, Same Pattern
2

April 13, 2009 6:24 am
ROCKTON
HOW WILL THE BEARS DO?
1

April 11, 2009 4:37 pm
Randomness
My CBJ article, written 3/28/09
0

April 9, 2009 11:36 am
Inside the Mind of the Catfish !
Part 8 of Inside the Mind of the Catfish
2

April 7, 2009 1:43 pm
Ball till you Fall
First Look at the Mets
0

April 6, 2009 6:51 pm
smackit
Baseball and cold beer
4

April 4, 2009 8:50 am
Random Ramblings
Cutler- The End of a Soap Opera...err, an Era
1

April 2, 2009 10:59 pm
Third Base
"Nuf Ced" McGreevy and the Royal Rooters
2

March 31, 2009 9:32 am
Bleedin' Black & Gold
Spring Training Leads To Hope???
0

March 27, 2009 10:35 am
The Clear Lake View
I wish I knew how to spell!
4

March 25, 2009 3:39 pm
Rebel Yell!
Member Mayhem Entry: Round 1
0

March 18, 2009 5:26 am
Chiefs Fantasy Draft
Chiefs fantasy football LIVE Draft
719

March 16, 2009 12:48 am
The Anti-Bull [feces] Party
Stealing? I Don't Think So
1

March 12, 2009 7:31 am
Ravings of an Elf Lord
The Sport of Truck Driving
1

March 11, 2009 8:07 pm
Why Buffalo??? WHY!?!?!?!
Why Buffalo? WHY!?!?!?!?
3

March 9, 2009 3:53 am
The Love of the Steroid-Enhanced Game
Asterisks? Please, Records as Legitimate as Any
13

March 6, 2009 10:14 pm